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		<title>By: William Heaney</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Heaney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point Geoff, one I hadn&#039;t really considered when writing the article.

Rooney is an excellent example.  He seems to thrive on the hostile atmosphere at the likes of Goodison and Anfield. Of the players mentioned in the article, Mo Johnston was certainly one who enjoyed the spotlight.

I agree that people within the game get too worked up, about all sorts of issues.  Having said that, I have no problem with fans feeling upset or angry if they feel let down by a player who moves on, that&#039;s their right.  It&#039;s how these feelings are expressed that often causes problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point Geoff, one I hadn&#8217;t really considered when writing the article.</p>
<p>Rooney is an excellent example.  He seems to thrive on the hostile atmosphere at the likes of Goodison and Anfield. Of the players mentioned in the article, Mo Johnston was certainly one who enjoyed the spotlight.</p>
<p>I agree that people within the game get too worked up, about all sorts of issues.  Having said that, I have no problem with fans feeling upset or angry if they feel let down by a player who moves on, that&#8217;s their right.  It&#8217;s how these feelings are expressed that often causes problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Edwards</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 13:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William, fair point. Do you think some players like to in some way to be at the centre of all that drama? An example could be Wayne Rooney. Sometimes it looks like he enjoys being the pantomime villain when he goes back to Goodison and he plays along with it all - celebrating goals in front of Everton fans and kissing his Man U badge etc.

I agree also with Steve A in that it&#039;s only a game. When you stop and think about it, it&#039;s quite irrational for fans to get quite so worked up about it all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William, fair point. Do you think some players like to in some way to be at the centre of all that drama? An example could be Wayne Rooney. Sometimes it looks like he enjoys being the pantomime villain when he goes back to Goodison and he plays along with it all &#8211; celebrating goals in front of Everton fans and kissing his Man U badge etc.</p>
<p>I agree also with Steve A in that it&#8217;s only a game. When you stop and think about it, it&#8217;s quite irrational for fans to get quite so worked up about it all!</p>
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		<title>By: William Heaney</title>
		<link>http://worldfootballcolumns.com/2009/10/20/is-it-worth-crossing-the-divide/#comment-292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William Heaney]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of the standard of player involved, and the attention it created, I think Figo&#039;s move was probably the biggest of it&#039;s type.  For the purposes of the article, I focused on local players, ie those who understand the history and rivalry of the clubs involved, as I think they hurt the fans the most.

Geoff, you make a very good point regarding the different perspectives of players and fans, for me that&#039;s part of the problem.  For all sorts of reasons, the relationship between the two groups is becoming more distant, and the ordinary fan finds it increasingly difficult to relate to the players they turn up to support every week.  When a player leaves a club where they are considered a hero, and moves to their biggest rivals, it&#039;s little wonder.

With regards to Campbell, I doubt he would have been thinking about racist or homophobic fans had he moved to another club, as the level of hatred would not have been the same.  As I said in the article, it was the right move in terms of his career.  However, no matter how mentally strong he is,there must have been occasions when he wondered whether it was worth it, particularly when the stick was every bit as bad after leaving Arsenal.

I disagree that the move to Arsenal would have been an easy decision for Campbell.  He had publicly stated that he would not move to Arsenal, but ultimately did.  Either he performed a major u-turn, or he knew along where he was headed and was stringing the Spurs fans along.  Either way, Campbell didn&#039;t emerge from that deal with a lot of credit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the standard of player involved, and the attention it created, I think Figo&#8217;s move was probably the biggest of it&#8217;s type.  For the purposes of the article, I focused on local players, ie those who understand the history and rivalry of the clubs involved, as I think they hurt the fans the most.</p>
<p>Geoff, you make a very good point regarding the different perspectives of players and fans, for me that&#8217;s part of the problem.  For all sorts of reasons, the relationship between the two groups is becoming more distant, and the ordinary fan finds it increasingly difficult to relate to the players they turn up to support every week.  When a player leaves a club where they are considered a hero, and moves to their biggest rivals, it&#8217;s little wonder.</p>
<p>With regards to Campbell, I doubt he would have been thinking about racist or homophobic fans had he moved to another club, as the level of hatred would not have been the same.  As I said in the article, it was the right move in terms of his career.  However, no matter how mentally strong he is,there must have been occasions when he wondered whether it was worth it, particularly when the stick was every bit as bad after leaving Arsenal.</p>
<p>I disagree that the move to Arsenal would have been an easy decision for Campbell.  He had publicly stated that he would not move to Arsenal, but ultimately did.  Either he performed a major u-turn, or he knew along where he was headed and was stringing the Spurs fans along.  Either way, Campbell didn&#8217;t emerge from that deal with a lot of credit.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Atkinson</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It acts as a form of validation though doesn&#039;t it?  To illustrate, as a Newcastle fan I wouldn&#039;t be upset if Geremi (No disrespect to him, good player) moved to Sunderland in January.  If Barcelona fans wanted to really upset Figo, they would have been better off just not caring, and not doing anything, would have sent a far harsher message to him.

In that case he was well within his rights to move, looked like he was on his way out anyway, Barca hadn&#039;t offered him a new contract.  Perhaps his destination didn&#039;t sit well with their fans but you can hardly blame the guy, biggest team in the world comes calling when he is seemingly being forced out.   To be honest, there are players I find difficult to like, but that is more to do with personality rather than club allegiances - it is just a game after all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It acts as a form of validation though doesn&#8217;t it?  To illustrate, as a Newcastle fan I wouldn&#8217;t be upset if Geremi (No disrespect to him, good player) moved to Sunderland in January.  If Barcelona fans wanted to really upset Figo, they would have been better off just not caring, and not doing anything, would have sent a far harsher message to him.</p>
<p>In that case he was well within his rights to move, looked like he was on his way out anyway, Barca hadn&#8217;t offered him a new contract.  Perhaps his destination didn&#8217;t sit well with their fans but you can hardly blame the guy, biggest team in the world comes calling when he is seemingly being forced out.   To be honest, there are players I find difficult to like, but that is more to do with personality rather than club allegiances &#8211; it is just a game after all.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Edwards</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 19:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The players have a different perspective from the fans. They are professionals and they have to think about how they can better their short careers. Sol Campbell is a good example. Spurs were going nowhere, and he had the chance to move to a side winning trophies that was right on his doorstep. He didn&#039;t have to move up north or to a foreign country and adapt. It was a huge thing for the fans, but I&#039;m sure it didn&#039;t take him longer than a second to make the decision to go there.

Do all those medals compensate for all the hatred he has received? I would say yes, without a doubt. If he went somewhere other than Arsenal and didn&#039;t achieve anything do you think he&#039;d be thinking &quot;oh well, at least I didn&#039;t upset those racist and homophobic idiots&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The players have a different perspective from the fans. They are professionals and they have to think about how they can better their short careers. Sol Campbell is a good example. Spurs were going nowhere, and he had the chance to move to a side winning trophies that was right on his doorstep. He didn&#8217;t have to move up north or to a foreign country and adapt. It was a huge thing for the fans, but I&#8217;m sure it didn&#8217;t take him longer than a second to make the decision to go there.</p>
<p>Do all those medals compensate for all the hatred he has received? I would say yes, without a doubt. If he went somewhere other than Arsenal and didn&#8217;t achieve anything do you think he&#8217;d be thinking &#8220;oh well, at least I didn&#8217;t upset those racist and homophobic idiots&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Fabricio</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah the biggest might have been Figo&#039;s departure from Barça, I remember his first game back in Camp Nou, booing and throwing oranges at him at the entire match. Here we also call &quot;Judas&quot;, the international nickname for traitors. Some fans, Santos and Corinthians for example, can´t stand to see a transfer to the other club, and they show their dislike by throwing coins at the players. but I agree with Steven, when the move is directly it hurts a lot, however when it has a &#039;third&#039; party involved still hurts but a lot less.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah the biggest might have been Figo&#8217;s departure from Barça, I remember his first game back in Camp Nou, booing and throwing oranges at him at the entire match. Here we also call &#8220;Judas&#8221;, the international nickname for traitors. Some fans, Santos and Corinthians for example, can´t stand to see a transfer to the other club, and they show their dislike by throwing coins at the players. but I agree with Steven, when the move is directly it hurts a lot, however when it has a &#8216;third&#8217; party involved still hurts but a lot less.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest one for me is the Figo transfer. Not a Catalan, not even a Spaniard but was the captain of Barcelona before he left for Madrid. The pig&#039;s head of course was what everyone identifies from the Barca faithful whilst he was taking a corner.

For me it&#039;s the direct moves that do the damage such as Campbell from Spurs to Arsenal. That move was on a free as well so Tottenham didn&#039;t get any money at all - obviously in a bid to raise his wages.

I think some of the hate is lost if a player goes other clubs in between stepping across the divide as lots of things can happen at the clubs in the meantime such as a new manager, even a new kind of culture. Since Owen left Liverpool they&#039;ve actually seen more success in the Champions League and probably associate Steven Gerrard with all of this. In saying that Owen will be boo&#039;ed at the weekend but I don&#039;t think the hate will be over-the-top, afterall Liverpool had chance (obviously not the fans choice, maybe not even Benitez&#039;s) to sign him in the summer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest one for me is the Figo transfer. Not a Catalan, not even a Spaniard but was the captain of Barcelona before he left for Madrid. The pig&#8217;s head of course was what everyone identifies from the Barca faithful whilst he was taking a corner.</p>
<p>For me it&#8217;s the direct moves that do the damage such as Campbell from Spurs to Arsenal. That move was on a free as well so Tottenham didn&#8217;t get any money at all &#8211; obviously in a bid to raise his wages.</p>
<p>I think some of the hate is lost if a player goes other clubs in between stepping across the divide as lots of things can happen at the clubs in the meantime such as a new manager, even a new kind of culture. Since Owen left Liverpool they&#8217;ve actually seen more success in the Champions League and probably associate Steven Gerrard with all of this. In saying that Owen will be boo&#8217;ed at the weekend but I don&#8217;t think the hate will be over-the-top, afterall Liverpool had chance (obviously not the fans choice, maybe not even Benitez&#8217;s) to sign him in the summer.</p>
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