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		<title>By: Craig Long</title>
		<link>http://worldfootballcolumns.com/2009/06/17/the-moyes-revolution/#comment-130</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 02:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Steve J - I too am confused by Joseph&#039;s comments and quotes. I&#039;m an Everton fan and found this article a good tribute to David Moyes. He accepted Wayne Rooney would move on and planned after that to make Everton a top 6 club. I think overall we&#039;ve benefitted from selling him as Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta and Fellani have been superb as has other recent buys by Moyes. I don&#039;t like to depend on one certain player at a team because if he gets injured then it gives you big problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve J &#8211; I too am confused by Joseph&#8217;s comments and quotes. I&#8217;m an Everton fan and found this article a good tribute to David Moyes. He accepted Wayne Rooney would move on and planned after that to make Everton a top 6 club. I think overall we&#8217;ve benefitted from selling him as Tim Cahill, Mikel Arteta and Fellani have been superb as has other recent buys by Moyes. I don&#8217;t like to depend on one certain player at a team because if he gets injured then it gives you big problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Jones</title>
		<link>http://worldfootballcolumns.com/2009/06/17/the-moyes-revolution/#comment-129</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joseph - I had to moderate your comment as we don&#039;t accept that kind of language here on World Football Columns but the rest of your point was valid and worth discussing.

Also I&#039;m wondering where your quote is taken from as it&#039;s not included in this article or any of the comments - nevertheless I&#039;ll bite.

I think it&#039;s a sad situation that the smaller clubs can&#039;t keep hold of their players - but unfortunately a realistic view. It&#039;s especially true in South American and continues right up the food chain to 2nd tier European teams such as Atletico. The question has to be begged - would Atletico have been able to keep together all those talents at once? Once Torres left, that was time for Aguero to shine - sure they could have all played together but at the smaller clubs you normally see one top player with a supporting cast rather than big name after big name.

I think from your quote - the players move to big teams to win silverware. Rooney at Manchester United has won 3 Premier Leagues and a Champions League - in all seriousness if Everton had held on to him would they have done the same? You have to remember that the money that Everton got for Rooney has been spent towards the team as a whole. They would have not have had that money otherwise.

One comment that always annoys me but is always true throughout is that all the top players have won the World Cup - this means essentially you have to play for a team capable of winning the World Cup such as Brazil, Italy or France. I can admit Ryan Giggs never made it to the very top of the sport but it was always the case that he wasn&#039;t going to win a World Cup.

I feel that alot of people won&#039;t truely rate Messi as the one of the greats unless he wins that World Cup - but in all honesty he&#039;s probably the best player I&#039;ve seen in my lifetime for his age, even if he doesn&#039;t win the World Cup surely he&#039;s going to have some career?

To summarise - top players making their small teams big (by winning silverware) is not the ordinary. Teams are struggling to break in the top tiers of their league because of the financial prowess that the top 3 or 4 teams possess. There will, as always, be exceptions to the rule but in general I think your views are based on a fantasy attitude towards the game - nothing wrong with that at all, but maybe it&#039;s time to take a pragmatic stance on the situation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph &#8211; I had to moderate your comment as we don&#8217;t accept that kind of language here on World Football Columns but the rest of your point was valid and worth discussing.</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;m wondering where your quote is taken from as it&#8217;s not included in this article or any of the comments &#8211; nevertheless I&#8217;ll bite.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a sad situation that the smaller clubs can&#8217;t keep hold of their players &#8211; but unfortunately a realistic view. It&#8217;s especially true in South American and continues right up the food chain to 2nd tier European teams such as Atletico. The question has to be begged &#8211; would Atletico have been able to keep together all those talents at once? Once Torres left, that was time for Aguero to shine &#8211; sure they could have all played together but at the smaller clubs you normally see one top player with a supporting cast rather than big name after big name.</p>
<p>I think from your quote &#8211; the players move to big teams to win silverware. Rooney at Manchester United has won 3 Premier Leagues and a Champions League &#8211; in all seriousness if Everton had held on to him would they have done the same? You have to remember that the money that Everton got for Rooney has been spent towards the team as a whole. They would have not have had that money otherwise.</p>
<p>One comment that always annoys me but is always true throughout is that all the top players have won the World Cup &#8211; this means essentially you have to play for a team capable of winning the World Cup such as Brazil, Italy or France. I can admit Ryan Giggs never made it to the very top of the sport but it was always the case that he wasn&#8217;t going to win a World Cup.</p>
<p>I feel that alot of people won&#8217;t truely rate Messi as the one of the greats unless he wins that World Cup &#8211; but in all honesty he&#8217;s probably the best player I&#8217;ve seen in my lifetime for his age, even if he doesn&#8217;t win the World Cup surely he&#8217;s going to have some career?</p>
<p>To summarise &#8211; top players making their small teams big (by winning silverware) is not the ordinary. Teams are struggling to break in the top tiers of their league because of the financial prowess that the top 3 or 4 teams possess. There will, as always, be exceptions to the rule but in general I think your views are based on a fantasy attitude towards the game &#8211; nothing wrong with that at all, but maybe it&#8217;s time to take a pragmatic stance on the situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Christoff</title>
		<link>http://worldfootballcolumns.com/2009/06/17/the-moyes-revolution/#comment-128</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you&#039;re talented, you must move to a &#039;big&#039; team.&quot;

This is rubbish. People with dignity and integrity have loyalty to their teams if the teams and managers have loyalty to them. There is just as much honor as bringing a small team to glory (see Sampdoria, for example, or Villareal) as in playing for Liverpool or Madrid.

Commentators said Fernando Torres had to leave Atletico to make it big. Yet Liverpool has won nothing in his time there, and had he stayed with Atletico he could have formed one of the most deadly attacking tridents in world football for sure, with Torres/Kun/Forlan being spoken of in the same breath as Messi/Eto&#039;o/Henry or Kaka/Ronaldinho/Pato or Rooney/Ronaldo/Berbatov. Who is to say that Atleti with Torres wouldn&#039;t be as good as Liverpool.

In short, this whole &quot;to attain true success, he has to move to a bigger club&quot; attitude needs to be discarded. Don&#039;t move to a big club, make your club big.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you&#8217;re talented, you must move to a &#8216;big&#8217; team.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is rubbish. People with dignity and integrity have loyalty to their teams if the teams and managers have loyalty to them. There is just as much honor as bringing a small team to glory (see Sampdoria, for example, or Villareal) as in playing for Liverpool or Madrid.</p>
<p>Commentators said Fernando Torres had to leave Atletico to make it big. Yet Liverpool has won nothing in his time there, and had he stayed with Atletico he could have formed one of the most deadly attacking tridents in world football for sure, with Torres/Kun/Forlan being spoken of in the same breath as Messi/Eto&#8217;o/Henry or Kaka/Ronaldinho/Pato or Rooney/Ronaldo/Berbatov. Who is to say that Atleti with Torres wouldn&#8217;t be as good as Liverpool.</p>
<p>In short, this whole &#8220;to attain true success, he has to move to a bigger club&#8221; attitude needs to be discarded. Don&#8217;t move to a big club, make your club big.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff Edwards</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think you&#039;re both right. You could argue that an extra winger and full-back, along with a lot of luck with injuries, could have been all it would have taken to get Everton those extra few points to really push the top 4 in the last couple of years.

Moyes really seems to have become a true Evertonian in his time at the club, which I think is the main reason while he&#039;s still at the club and I think he genuinely wants to break through that roof that Steve mentioned. But with the money that the likes of Man City, Tottenham and Aston Villa have at their disposal, I think it&#039;s only going to get harder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re both right. You could argue that an extra winger and full-back, along with a lot of luck with injuries, could have been all it would have taken to get Everton those extra few points to really push the top 4 in the last couple of years.</p>
<p>Moyes really seems to have become a true Evertonian in his time at the club, which I think is the main reason while he&#8217;s still at the club and I think he genuinely wants to break through that roof that Steve mentioned. But with the money that the likes of Man City, Tottenham and Aston Villa have at their disposal, I think it&#8217;s only going to get harder.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Atkinson</title>
		<link>http://worldfootballcolumns.com/2009/06/17/the-moyes-revolution/#comment-126</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like what Everton have done, they know they haven&#039;t the financial resources of the bigger clubs so they have looked at the lower divisions and looked at promoting youth players.  They have the right idea I think, and although some people seem to disagree I think that with a lot of luck and the right manager they can go all the way with their current set up.

Perhaps it&#039;s just the romantic in me that sees great football and winning teams not just being based around money?  Hopefully Everton can press on, bring more quality young players through and push for the top 4 this season.  If they do it once, they can attract one or two big names and push on potentially.  When Arteta and Cahill are both fit, if they had a consistant centre forward, and perhaps another winger they would have a very exciting attacking unit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what Everton have done, they know they haven&#8217;t the financial resources of the bigger clubs so they have looked at the lower divisions and looked at promoting youth players.  They have the right idea I think, and although some people seem to disagree I think that with a lot of luck and the right manager they can go all the way with their current set up.</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s just the romantic in me that sees great football and winning teams not just being based around money?  Hopefully Everton can press on, bring more quality young players through and push for the top 4 this season.  If they do it once, they can attract one or two big names and push on potentially.  When Arteta and Cahill are both fit, if they had a consistant centre forward, and perhaps another winger they would have a very exciting attacking unit.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven Jones</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Moyes has hit the roof with Everton now and should be looking towards a bigger job (which he&#039;s be a very strong candidate for). Once a job comes up he&#039;ll be in the running - it&#039;s just a matter of time I feel.

It&#039;s a shame for Everton really but as Bill Kenwright said - Everton need a billionnaire and until they get that they&#039;re going to struggle to break into the next level.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Moyes has hit the roof with Everton now and should be looking towards a bigger job (which he&#8217;s be a very strong candidate for). Once a job comes up he&#8217;ll be in the running &#8211; it&#8217;s just a matter of time I feel.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame for Everton really but as Bill Kenwright said &#8211; Everton need a billionnaire and until they get that they&#8217;re going to struggle to break into the next level.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Atkinson</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 13:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Moyes is obviously a fantastic judge of a players ability.  He&#039;s found a few lower league players like Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka and helped them transform their careers.  They have a lot of players I admire, Osman I think is vastly underrated.  Arteta as well would walk into the England squad, yet can&#039;t get a sniff for Spain, shows how frighteningly high quality the Spanish midfield is.

Do you think Moyes is there forever now?  Building a legacy?  Surely you must do all you can to keep him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moyes is obviously a fantastic judge of a players ability.  He&#8217;s found a few lower league players like Cahill, Lescott and Jagielka and helped them transform their careers.  They have a lot of players I admire, Osman I think is vastly underrated.  Arteta as well would walk into the England squad, yet can&#8217;t get a sniff for Spain, shows how frighteningly high quality the Spanish midfield is.</p>
<p>Do you think Moyes is there forever now?  Building a legacy?  Surely you must do all you can to keep him.</p>
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